We have the complete manure fork product and l love it. Over the winter I removed all of the manure tines and installed 3 of Neat Attachment smaller diameter 49" bale spears and made my own version of their skid steer bale mover. However, I was able to move the outside spears in one hole from the end and make a work perfectly with our 4x5 round bales. I can lift a bale from the side or the end with it. And now that we need to move manure again, I purchased this frame to allow me to have both.